The Second American Civil War

There may be a second Civil War in the United States. The first one was over slavery, the second one will be over illegal immigration.

Both are very much issues over states rights, voting rights, economy and census taking. Now, Immigration isnt necessarily about human property rights, but it does fall into human rights boundaries.

If illegal aliens are allowed to be counted in the census, this would be the catalyst for Civil War. Voting districts would be drawn up based on a population that cannot vote. This would give unfair advantage to those districts because they are accountable to fewer people.

That was the single biggest reason for the first Civil War. It wasnt about slavery per se, it was about voting power. That is why the blacks were counted at 3/5th a person. It was a compromise between the North and the South. Also, if slavery was abolished, then the economy of the Southern states which relied on slavery would crumble, as it might with the illegal alien issue.

It does matter

When Obama wrote a book and said he was mentored as a youth by Frank, (Frank Marshall Davis) an avowed Communist. People said it didn't matter...


When it was discovered that his grandparents, were strong socialists, sent Obama's mother to a socialist school, introduced Frank Marshall Davis to young Obama, People said it didn't matter...

When people found out that he was enrolled as a Muslim child in school and his father and step father were both Muslims, People said it didn't matter...

When he wrote in another book he authored “I will stand with them (Muslims) should the political winds shift in an ugly direction". People said it didn't matter...

When he admittedly, in his book, said he chose Marxist friends and professors in college, People said it didn't matter...

When he traveled to Pakistan, after college on an unknown national passport, People said it didn't matter...

When he sought the endorsement of the Marxist party in 1996 as he ran for the Illinois Senate, People said it doesn't matter...

When he sat in a Chicago Church for twenty years and listened to a preacher spew hatred for America and preach black liberation theology, People said it didn't matter...

When an independent Washington organization, that tracks senate voting records, gave him the distinctive title as the "most liberal senator", People said it didn't matter...

When the Palestinians in Gaza, set up a fund raising telethon to raise money for his election campaign, People said it didn't matter...

When his voting record supported gun control, People said it didn't matter...

When he refused to disclose who donated money to his election campaign, as other candidates had done, People said it didn't matter...

When he received endorsements from people like Louis Farrakhan and Mummar Kaddafi and Hugo Chavez, People said it didn't matter...

When it was pointed out that he was a total, newcomer and had absolutely no experience at anything except community organizing, People said it didn't matter...

When he chose friends and acquaintances such as Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn who were revolutionary radicals, People said it didn't matter...

When his voting record in the Illinois senate and in the U.S. Senate came into question, People said it didn't matter...

When he refused to wear a flag, lapel pin and did so only after a public outcry, People said it didn't matter...

When people started treating him as a Messiah and children in schools were taught to sing his praises, People said it didn't matter...

When he stood with his hands over his groin area for the playing of the National Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance, People said it didn't matter...

When he surrounded himself in the White house with advisors who were pro gun control, pro abortion, pro homosexual marriage, anti-capitalism, anti-free markets, pro government control over everything and wanting to curtail freedom of speech to silence the opposition, People said it didn't matter...

When he aired his views on abortion, homosexuality and a host of other issues, People said it didn't matter...

When he said he favors sex education in Kindergarten, including homosexual indoctrination, People said it didn't matter...

When his background was either scrubbed or hidden and nothing could be found about him, People said it didn't matter...

When his first act as President, literally within 5 minutes of taking office, he signed executive order #13489 that sealed his own records, People said it didn’t matter...

When the place of his birth was called into question, and he refused to produce a birth certificate, and continues to spend millions in court to keep the material sealed, People said it didn't matter...

When he had an association in Chicago with Tony Rezco, a man of questionable character, who is now in prison and had helped Obama to a sweet deal on the purchase of his home, People said it didn't matter...

When it became known that George Soros, a multi-billionaire Marxist, spent a ton of money to get him elected, People said it didn't matter...

When he started appointing czars that were radicals, revolutionaries, and even avowed Marxist/Communist, People said it didn't matter...

When he stood before the nation and told us that his intentions were to "fundamentally transform this nation" into something else, People said it didn't matter...

When it became known that he had trained ACORN workers in Chicago and served as an attorney for ACORN, People said it didn't matter...


When he appointed a cabinet members and several advisors who were tax cheats and socialist, People said it didn't matter...

When he appointed a science czar, John Holdren, who believes in forced abortions, mass sterilizations and seizing babies from teen mothers, People said it didn't matter...

When he appointed Cass Sunstein as regulatory czar and he believes in "Explicit Consent", harvesting human organs without family consent, and to allow animals to be represented in court, while banning all hunting, People said it didn't matter...

When he appointed Kevin Jennings, an overt homosexual, and organizer of a group called gay, lesbian, straight, education network, as safe school czar and it became known that he had a history of bad advice to teenagers, People said it didn't matter...

When he appointed Mark Lloyd as diversity czar and he believed in curtailing free speech, taking from one and giving to another to spread the wealth and admires Hugo Chavez, People said it didn't matter...

When Valerie Jarrett was selected as Obama's senior White House advisor and she is an avowed Socialist, People said it didn't matter...

When Anita Dunn, White House Communications director said Mao Tse Tung was her favorite philosopher and the person she turned to most for inspiration, People said it didn't matter...

When he appointed Carol Browner as global warming czar, and she is a well known socialist working on Cap and trade as the nation’s largest tax hike in history, People said it doesn't matter...

When he appointed Van Jones, an ex-con and avowed Communist as green energy czar, who since had to resign when this was made known, People said it didn't matter...

When Tom Daschle, Obama's pick for health and human services secretary could not be confirmed, because he was a tax cheat, People said it didn't matter...

When as president of the United States, he bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia, People said it didn't matter...

When he traveled around the world criticizing America and never once talking of her greatness, People said it didn't matter...

When his actions concerning the middle-east seemed to support the Palestinians over Israel, our long time friend, People said it doesn't matter...

When he took American tax dollars to resettle thousands of Palestinians from Gaza to the United States , People said it doesn't matter...

When he upset our European allies by removing plans for a missile defense system against the Russians, People said it doesn't matter...

When he played politics in Afghanistan by not sending troops the Field Commanders said we had to have to win, People said it didn't matter...

When he started spending us into a debt that was so big we could not pay it off, People said it didn't matter...

When he took a huge spending bill under the guise of stimulus and used it to pay off organizations, unions and individuals that got him elected, People said it didn't matter...

When he forced the takeover of insurance companies, car companies, banks, etc, People said it didn't matter...

When he took away student loans from the banks and put it through the government, People said it didn't matter...

When he designed plans to take over the health care system and put it under government control, People said it didn't matter...

When he set into motion a plan to take over the control of all energy resources in the United States through Cap and Trade, People said it didn't matter...

When he announced he was returning the masterminds of 9-11 to New York City to stand trial as ordinary criminals -- not war criminals -- and thus allow them the benefits from our system of jurisprudence, The mainstream media loved it and the people said it didn't matter...(Oh really? Go ask an FDNY FF, NYPD Cop, NY EMS, NY Port Authority Cop or Transit Worker, or a 9/11 Families member who was at the World Trade Center 9/11/2001 and see if it matters...)

When he finally completed his transformation of America into a Socialist State, people finally woke up, but it was too late...

Any one of these things, in and of themselves does not really matter. But when you add them up one by one you get a phenomenal score that points to the fact that our Obama is determined to make America over into a Marxist/Socialist society. All of the items in the preceding paragraphs have been put into place. All can be documented very easily. Before you disavow this, do an internet search. The last paragraph alone is not yet cast in stone. You and I will write that paragraph. Will it read as above or will it be a more happy ending for most of America ? Personally, I like happy endings...


If you are an Obama Supporter, please recognize that you have elected a president who is a 'socialist'. There is simply no debate about these facts. But you need to seek the truth; you will be richer for it. Don't just belittle the opposition. Search for the truth. I did. Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Constitutionalist, Libertarians and what have you, we all need to pull together. We all must pull together or watch the demise of a society that we all love and cherish. If you are a religious person, pray for our nation...

Never before in the history of America have we been confronted with problems so huge that the very existence of our country is in jeopardy. Don't rely on most television news and what you read in the newspapers for the truth. Search the internet. Yes, there is a lot of bad information, lies and distortions there as well, but you are smart enough to spot the fallacies. Newspapers are a dying breed. They are currently seeking a bailout from the government. Do you really think they are about to print the truth? Obama praises all the television news networks except Fox who he is currently waging an open war against. There must be a reason. He does not call them down on any specifics, and he has failed to refute any facts presented – because it is all true. If they lie, he should call them out on it but he doesn't. Please, find the truth, it will set you free...

Our biggest enemy is not China, Russia or Iran; no, our biggest enemy is the current contingent of politicians in Washington DC led by the Progressive Left Liberals who support the previously mentioned things...

Wake Up America! There's still time in 2010 to take back America and send a message LOUD and CLEAR to those who think 'it doesn't matter'...

I happen to think 'it does matter'...

God Bless America!

Matt Bruce

An American Independent Conservative Who Thinks 'It Matters'...

One vs. the other

If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.

If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his enemy.
A liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.

If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

If a black man or Hispanic are conservative, they see themselves as independently successful.
Their liberal counterparts see themselves as victims in need of government protection.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced. (Unless it's a foreign religion, of course!)

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.

If a conservative slips and falls in a store, he gets up, laughs and is embarrassed.
If a liberal slips and falls, he grabs his neck, moans like he's in labor and then sues.

On Glenn Beck

I was discussing Glenn Beck with some of my more liberal acquaintances over the weekend and something hit me as funny. Their intellectual hero is Steven Colbert. Now, when the left bashes Glenn and cites Colbert, I tend to write it off.

However, something is wrong here. People who bash Glenn don't even watch him. It has become trendy to pile on and not even know what they are talking about. It seems that those who spent years fighting racism and prejudice are committing it on Glenn Beck. They hate him and don't even know anything about him.

Before you bash him, try reading his books and watching his shows. Write down what Glenn says, independently verify his facts, then make your own decisions.

Freedom is not free

I was thinking to day, how many of us actually know the candidates we are voting for? Do we study thier voting records? Do we study thier press conferences, thier audio clips, thier video clips? Or do we simply vote the party line?

Remember:
"The government you elect is the government you deserve" - Thomas Jefferson

Secret Combinations in our Government

In the Book of Mormon, in the book of Ether, Moroni warns the Gentiles of secret combinations:

Ch. 8 Verses 23-25

Wherefore, O ye Gentiles, it is wisdom in God that these things should be shown unto you, that thereby ye may repent of your sins, and suffer not that these murderous combinations shall get above you, which are built up to get power and gain-and the work, yea, even the work of destruction come upon you, yea, even the sword of the justice of the Eternal God shall fall upon you, to your overthrow and destruction if ye shall suffer these things to be. Wherefore the Lord commandeth you, when ye shall see these things come among you that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this secret combination which shall be among you; or wo be unto it, because of the blood of them who have been slain; for they cry from the dust for vengeance upon it, and also upon those who built it up. For it cometh to pass that whoso buildeth it up seeketh to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries; and it bringeth to pass the destruction of all people, for it is built up by the devil, who is the father of all lies; even that same liar who beguiled our first parents, yea, even that same liar who hath caused man to commit murder from the beginning; who hath hardened the hearts of men that they have murdered the prohets, and stoned them, and cast them out from the beginning.

Emphasis added.

Please read on. Believe it or not, people are using secret combinations to take away our freedoms. Please open your eyes and do something about it. I believe that if we see these things and do nothing than we are just as bad as the people who perpetrate these combinations.

Urine or You're out

From an email I got today:

Like most folks in this country, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to get that paycheck in my case, I am required to pass a random urine test (with which I have no problem). What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test.

So, here is my Question: Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them?

Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on their butts doing drugs, while I work.

Can you imagine how much money each state would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check?

I guess we could title that program, 'Urine or You're Out'.

Some thing has to change in this country -- and soon!!!!!!!

No God = No Sin = No Guilt

If there is no God, can there be sin? If there is no sin, can there be punishment or guilt?

In terms of morality, it seems that many people lately are denying God because they are trying to escape punishment or guilt. We are all born with an inate knowledge of right and wrong. As we grow up an the world skews our knowledge of right and wrong, we begin to desire the things of the world. At first, we feel guilty about indulging because we know it is wrong, but guilt is a negative emotion.

In order to continue doing things which seem pleasureable, but avoid the negative emotion of guilt, we start to rationalize. "Oh, I'm not hurting anyone". "Everyone is doing it". The rationalization quickly takes over and we begin to be able to tell ourselves whatever we need to in order to not feel the guilt.

Once others become concerned about the behavior and start discussing the inherent reasons why the behavior is inappropriate from a religious stand point, we begin to rationalize that if the only reason this is wrong is because God says it is wrong, I'll deny God. If there is no God, there is no Sin. If there is no Sin, I can go right on doing what I feel like with no consequence... Not even the consequence of guilt, because the light in us (our conscience) has faded and we have successfully killed God and taken away all of the consequences of sin.

I just wonder, how many of you athiests are so caught up in the pleasures of the world that you have killed God in order to alleviate your guilt?

I think the nation is heading for disaster

I think the nation is heading for disaster, based on this exerpt from Samuel Adams:

"It is not high time for the people of this country explicitly to declare, whether they will be freemen or slaves? It is an important question which ought to be decided. It concerns us more than anything in this life. The salvation of our souls is interested in this event. For wherever tyranny is established, immorality of every kind comes in like a torrent. It is in the interest of tyrants to reduce the people to ignorance and vice. For they cannot live in any country where virtue and knowledge prevail. The religion and public liberty of a people are intimately connected; their interest are interwoven, they cannot subsist separately; and therefore they rise and fall together. For this reason, it is always observable, that those who are combined to destroy the people's liberties. practice every art to poison their morals. How greatly then does it concern us, at all events, to put a stop to the progress of tyranny."

- Samuel Adams, October 1772

What do you think?

Soros' Shadow Government

I have been saying it for the last few days. Here is another word of warning. Obama is NOT the enemy. Nor was Bush. They BOTH were puppets of George Soros.

George Soros as the puppeteer

Here is a link to a topic on the "Clowar Pivan Strategy"

Here is a link to a Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals"

The Price of gold reaches record highs

Why is gold going so high? Because the dollar is collapsing

The warning is this:
If we dont wake up and do something, we are headed for disaster.

The Clowar Piven Strategy (CPS) is to put as many people on the govmt dole in order to collapse Capitalism and replace it with Socialism.

From the CPS article:
"This was an example of what are commonly called Trojan Horse movements -- mass movements whose outward purpose seems to be providing material help to the downtrodden, but whose real objective is to draft poor people into service as revolutionary foot soldiers; to mobilize poor people en masse to overwhelm government agencies with a flood of demands beyond the capacity of those agencies to meet. The flood of demands was calculated to break the budget, jam the bureaucratic gears into gridlock, and bring the system crashing down. Fear, turmoil, violence and economic collapse would accompany such a breakdown -- providing perfect conditions for fostering radical change. That was the theory."

It almost bankrupted New York in 1975
It almost bankrupted CA in 2009

In Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" he begins with:
"What follows is for those who want to change the world from what it is to what they believe it should be. The Prince was written by Machiavelli for the Haves on how to hold power. Rules for Radicals is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it away. "

If you look at those rules, they are the same rules that most of my opponents to this thread will use.
Rule 5: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.

and
Rule 10: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. Avoid being trapped by an opponent or an interviewer who says, “Okay, what would you do?”

and
Rule 11: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Don’t try to attack abstract corporations or bureaucracies. Identify a responsible individual. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame.

As we have heard from thier own mouths, many of those who surround Mr. Obama are Marxists/Socialists. Now, while I dont have any evidence that they subscribe to the tenets of Salinksy or Clowar Piven, they sure, by thier rhetoric, seem to have read the manuals.

Stand up. Wake the dragon. Have a voice. Be Heard. Do not go quietly into the night.

What say you?

The parable of the three bicycles

This is the parable of the three bicycles as found somehere in Matthew, maybe Mark.


Three families go to Wallymart (the names have been changed to protect the innocent) and each buys a different make and model of bike.

Included on the packaging are the dreaded words that Fathers hate to hear most, "Some Assembly Required". No problem these Dads have built many bikes before.

The first family opens the box and pulls out the instructions, open them up and they are in some written word. What language is this anyways? Did engineers make these instructions? The dad reads them, follows them, and finishes the bike. Well, it resembles a bike, but the bike is not assembled totally to specs.

The second family opens the box and the instructions are all pictures. Woo Hoo, right? Wrong, a picture is worth a thousand words, but it needs to be the right picture. This bike, too, when finished, resembles a bike, but still is not assembled to specs.

The third dad opens the box and throws away the instructions, after all, he has built tons of bikes, he doesnt need a stupid manual to tell him how to do it. When this Dad gets finished, the bike is no where near resembling a bike, pieces are lost, parts are broken and the Dad wonders where he went wrong.

The moral of the story is that even though some manuals are not the greatest, we can get close to the intended product by following them. When we think we can do something all by ourselves without consulting the manual, all we get is junk.

From where does free money come?

Sources:

Free-coat hoax touches off a riot

Thousands line up for free Obama Dollars...And nearly Riot..because they ran out of money

Obama Is Going To Pay For My Gas And Mortgage

People dont know where the money is coming from


Proposition:

1. People go ape in order to get free stuff.

2. When promised goods and services are not delivered, people go ape, even more, on the people responsible.

3. When you give away stuff for free, people line up to receive it

4. When you give stuff away for free, and there is a limited supply, you run out

5. People think the money is coming from Obamas personal stash

6. People thing Obama is promising free money of which there is a limited supply

7. The free money will run out therefore people who were promosed free money will go ape

8. People think the money is coming directly from Obama therefore they will go ape on Obama

9. Conclusion: Obama offering free money to the masses will result in chaos, riots, and civil disobedience directed toward the US Government in a very large way.

The Cloward-Piven Strategy

"The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty" AKA "The Cloward-Piven Strategy (CPS)


This article was first published in "The Nation" on May 2, 1966. It suggests a strategy for ending poverty. This strategy is all about redistribution of wealth. The tactics they suggest include creating crises in which the goverment welfare system is overwhelmed by too many people requesting benefits.

The end result is buying, nay enslaving the poor urban masses, by ensuring thier loyalties to thier "benefactors"

I have always said that liberals breed liberals. They use thier liberal viewpoints to enslave, not liberate.

No strategy, however confident its advocates may be, is foolproof. But if unforeseen contingencies thwart this plan to bring about new federal legislation in the field of poverty, it should also be noted that there would be gains even in defeat. For one thing, the plight of many poor people would be somewhat eased in the course of an assault upon public welfare. Existing recipients would come to know their rights and how to defend them, thus acquiring dignity where none now exists; and millions of dollars in withheld welfare benefits would become available to potential recipients now-not several generations from now. Such an attack should also be welcome to those currently concerned with programs designed to equip the young to rise out of poverty (e.g., Head Start), for surely children learn more readily when the oppressive burden of financial insecurity is lifted from the shoulders of their parents. And those seeking new ways to engage the Negro politically should remember that public resources have always been the fuel for low-income urban political organization. If organizers can deliver millions of dollars in cash benefits to the ghetto masses, it seems reasonable to expect that the masses will deliver their loyalties to their benefactors. At least, they have always done so in the past.

"A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." - GB Shaw